Final Fantasy Hacktics

My gosh i can't wait to play the second part and the first with new changes:_: Delitaaaaaa

I just wanted to make a new thread because i didnt see any activity in the forum ^^

Whoever read this, if you agree with me, just write a comment ahahha

I take the chance to explain why i love Delita char so much.

In all FF untill now, Delita in my favorite character because in my point of view, he is the one that MOST OF ALL have human reaction to what happen around him a real human reaction, plus he NEVER do anything evil in the whole game, i think many people don't really understand Delita reaction position and everything related to that char, when they say Delita become a bad guy.

Ovelia even stab him in the end of the game, Yea Delita kinda used her too, but he never mistreated her never locked her somewhere or any bad thing, if i was Delita i would have done Exactly what he did, you stab me i stab you.

Plus It's true that Ramza is the hero in the shadow since he fight the Lucavi but Politically talking stopping the war and everything has been done by Delita.
So actually Ivalice have peace thanks to him not only thanks to Ramza.
He risk his life more then one time to protect Ovelia, and that bit** stab him because she felt used -.- are you stupid of what? Didn't she used Delita to get free from the people who wanted to kill her? did Delita said something about it?

He just wanted REVENGE over all the people who was responsible for Teta's death.. if while getting revenge he become the king.. why no?

I hope i didnt posted this in the wrong section, i just wanted to liven up the forum xD

I, too, have been checking in now and then to see how it's progressing. I've been busy working and studying, with little time for any leisurely activity, but I will be making time when Elric and crew re-release Jot5. I don't play any video games anymore (because being a responsible adult sucks), so this mod will be a lovely present to me :cool:

I think the entire story in FFT is absolutely one of the best in the series, and Delita's exploitation of the aristocracy that exploited his family compliments Ramza's battle against both the Lucavi and the Church. Ovelia stabbing Delita wasn't too surprising; she was a princess figure who endured some heavy traumatic life events (like Sansa Stark).

Keep up the good work everyone. You all have my support!

P.S. Some Crono action would be much appreciated :mrgreen:

Sorry for the stall. My laptop asploded, and then my phone (my source of internet) asploded, and Elric's had real life happen to him, so it's been a busy and painful month without progress on chapter 2. It'll pick back up, none of us have anywhere to go for Christmas, but we really did lose a month's worth of work thanks to me and life. Sorry all.

*Bows deeply for forgiveness*

Quote from: Toshiko on December 05, 2015, 06:30:55 am
Sorry for the stall. My laptop asploded, and then my phone (my source of internet) asploded, and Elric's had real life happen to him, so it's been a busy and painful month without progress on chapter 2. It'll pick back up, none of us have anywhere to go for Christmas, but we really did lose a month's worth of work thanks to me and life. Sorry all.

*Bows deeply for forgiveness*

Got to do what you got to do, it's cool we can wait. Hope everything is alright.

I also check the site like everyday when I can and will jump on Jot5 when its done.

As for Delita, he's not really a bad guy but kinda loses his mind after Teta dies and gets sick of all the crap he has to put up with so he adopts the mindset of screw everyone I am going to do whats best for me. Ovelia is kind of more selfish than he is because during the game she is constantly crying about her own life of being a princess and being alone when she probably had plenty of chances in Zeltennia to run off, leave the country and start anew. It's easy for most people to call Delita evil when he is compared to Ramza who is like the most unselfish person ever. Delita is one of the most well written characters ever in any rpg that I can remember.

And if it makes anyone else feel better, my life in general has been incredibly stupid this past year too so just hang in there (as much as I hate to constantly have to tell myself that).

I also apologize. I have indeed had some things going on with my fathers health and due to some things I wanted to finish off for him personally, I've been slacking for the past month on Jot5. That being said, my motivation has not dwindled in the slightest, it has only shifted. I'll be back on track within the next week or so and pushing hard on Ch1 and 2 once again. Toshiko is very kind, but the truth is, any delay is actually my own fault. It is coming though.

Hei guys wtf?XD

I only wanted to liven up the forum, i never asked for anyone apology, i just wanted to tell you I and most likely lot other people are waiting for the second part, thats all! I never give fault to any one here ^^

Life is not something you decide how it goes when you dont talk about you, so its normal that "Things" can happen , i dont think anyone with a brain would ever blame any of you guys slowing down for life problems..

That's why i shifted my post on Delita , to talk about something else ^^

Aniway...  im very glad someone think the same way i do about Delita, that makes me feel less lonely about taste of character story and development.

Agreed no worries guys. Shit happens there is no reason to apologize. I am very anxious to get playing new ch1 and ch2 but I can definitely say that it is worth the wait! I'm very glad you guys are sticking to it, even though I just found this awesome mod I believe its almost 3 years old now? I have seen many projects come and go and I know it takes an unbelievable amount of work and dedication to get to the point you guys are at now. Just know that it is definitely appreciated and you guys can add another huge fan to your list =p. I wish I could help out =/ I'm currently going to school for computer programming so I'm hoping to pick up some basics I can use to expand on some things that interest me. Just a thought too while some of you guys wait for the new release of jot5...If any of you guys are fans of classic phantasy star series, pscave has translated the ps2 remake of phantasy star 1 + 2. 2 is currently in beta but they are just about finished testing and as long as you play on an emulator there seems to be no errors. They also have mods for ps4 that make every fight in the game seem like hell =p. I'm a big fan of the classic phantasy stars so that was awesome to be able to play the remakes and the ps4 mod was just insane but it was very fun. They put a lot of work into them as well.

So as video games go I was looking forward to some things. One was Americana Dawn and they haven't updated in months and I'm pretty sure the creator has giving up on it after a failed kickstarter. Then there are some steam games that I'am waiting to go on sale (Darkest Dungeon, Telepath Tactics, The Curious Expediton, Shelter 2 and Catacomb Kids) and since they are not I'm starting to think they are lame (probably because I keep looking at them so much) and not as interested as when they first came out.

So I'am just writing this to say Journey of the Five is the most anticipated game for me this year and for next year and will be a must play for me when it comes out (I have been checking the site on a daily basis and am still not bored or tired of waiting). I have been a gamer since the 80's; since Atari and Journey of the Five is the must play for any FFTactics fan for the superb story line, gameplay and difficulty that the creators took the time, dedication and knowledge to make. I can't think of any game pending that comes close to the hype I have for this game and best wishes to the creators and community of FFhacktics.com for all the support and input they have given over the course of development. Keep up the great work in 2016, thank you.

Thank you~ ♥

Is it weird to say that I'm hype for it too, even though I'm part of the production? Seriously, I really can't wait for the re-release, and Chapter 2, and I really cannot wait to see Chapter 3's release! It's honestly huge for me, in a way that's hard to describe. I'm sure it's that much more profound for Elric, of course, but I dizzyingly daydream about these events daily. No lie.

Also, know that each missed approximate deadline means new awesome things were added*. The wait has been long, but it will sooooo be worthwhile!

* Okay, so for a few weeks there, it was computer/life issues. You still got a year's worth of, "wouldn't it be cool if we...?" so hold onto your butts!

Haha its good a good thing you guys are so excited about your project! That's why it is so good! I got no doubt its gonna be worth the wait.  :P

hei what about Delita!?!? :evil:


hahahahah

Hey Guys!!

Just writing to show some love. I registered an account on this site for the sole purpose of communicating & encouraging this project.

I picked up CH 1 about a year ago and it blew my mind. I also got my best friend into the game and it blew his mind too.
We have nostalgic memories of first picking up FFT when we were young, and being blown away by the depth. Made us SRPG/TRPG players for life.
It's great to see that the game is still very much alive and that highly talented programmers are modifying it into a new experience, that's truly epic.

I am in 100% full support of Jot5, I endorse it as one of the best game/mod ideas ever. The game is epic and I speak for everyone when I express my excitement.
Just wondering what kind of time line for the CH 2 release we're looking at.

No need to apologize as you guys are doing a service and life is busy and we all respect you for it.

Also, how many chapters do you think you will have in all?

Much love and keep up the great work!! I am among many that are holding onto each new post/update.

-JD

From what I understand right now I believe they are concentrating on the re-release of ch 1. They did a lot of changes to the game over all (especially the mark system, monster recruitment, jp system and the ch1 last battle). So that's why ch1 re-release is first then they are gonna concentrate on ch2 release. They are pretty far done with ch2 from the look of the progress log but ik elric has some rl shit going on right now. I haven't heard any release dates as of yet but maybe we'll get an approximate timeline soon.

*edit* by the way if you guys need any help testing or anything at all just pm me. I don't have any programming experience and I'm not very good at spotting grammar mistakes but I can try and spot some while I test for glitches and game play issues.

Right on!

Thanks for the update Guru. I am quite excited for the re-release (as well as CH 2) and am obviously holding onto every update I can get.
I wonder if they will make it possible to continue your save game from RR CH1 into CH2 and into the future 3 and 4?

That would give serious reason to invest some time in the file and not have to start from scratch again.

great game much love and support, keep rollin' guys!!

You'll have to wait for them to confirm everything but according to the chapter 2 progress log, we'll have to start over from scratch because of the new changes. I got a feeling it'll be worth it though  :P. Plus you don't want to get too leveled early on or the monsters get crazy hard.

Correct, Chapter 1 re-release will herald a new beginning; you cannot play chapter 2 without playing the chapter 1 re-release.

My side of Chapter 1 is done and has been done unless anything changes. I've been working on Chapter 2, but need Elric back before I can make more progress (which will actually be on Chapter 3, believe it or not). I'm not pressuring him, though, as I know what he's been going through, and I'm closer to him than my own family (barring Xifanie, of course). It's been rough, and I've been there, so I'm here more to lift him up than anything at the moment.

I completely understand. Although I just registered to the site (for the purpose of communicating with you guys) I have frequented it being the fan of FFT I am. I have noticed Elric and have followed many of his posts. My sympathies go out to him and his family and obviously dealing with his personal issues are more important.

I really hope everything works out well for Elric.

You guys are putting together a masterpiece and you have the support of everyone.
Thanks for the updates!

I will absolutely enjoy starting the re-release over with the marks system, revised JP system and to see the tweaks you have made. This mod could very well go down as an instant classic in my book. The idea is already classic!

thanks again guys, you rock!

Hey I got a quick question not worth starting a new thread over..... Does Agrias base class( Holy Knight ) have the same growth rates as the original?

Also just out of curiosity what did everyone do with agrias on the original game? I always liked the holy knight/samurai and the holy knight/geomancer combos. Not sure what I'm gonna do with her on JOT5 yet. Seeing as how she is a guest I'll have to mess around with some builds and see how well the AI does with it.

And yeah good luck with everything Elric, seems you got a lot going on right now and I hope all goes well!

Quote from: Guru on December 18, 2015, 09:04:28 pm
Hey I got a quick question not worth starting a new thread over..... Does Agrias base class( Holy Knight ) have the same growth rates as the original?

Also just out of curiosity what did everyone do with agrias on the original game? I always liked the holy knight/samurai and the holy knight/geomancer combos. Not sure what I'm gonna do with her on JOT5 yet. Seeing as how she is a guest I'll have to mess around with some builds and see how well the AI does with it.

And yeah good luck with everything Elric, seems you got a lot going on right now and I hope all goes well!

I pretty much just stuck Agrias with Item the whole time, pretty boring and just used the holy sword. I did try her out as a summoner once but she was not good with magic and her best abilities were the status change ones like golem and carbunkle or rich :D for the chance for instant death. I liked the holy sword so much that I just used it all the time.

I always loved ninja Agrias...flail in the top hand, sword in the bottom with holy sword secondary. It was silly how good that was in the middle of chapter three when you could use a flame whip + 108 gems or morning star to do insane damage. Of course, can't argue with Holy Knight/Geomancer either.

Yeah those 108 gems worked awesome with the geomancer build too. I think it boosted one of her sword skills too. I always hated how her growth rates on the holy knight were so bad. The only reason I made her a samurai was because on one of my games I leveled her in the holy knight thinking it out to have good PA growth and she ended up having really high MA but low PA and was doing pitiful damage with her sword skills. She still ended up being one of my MVP as a samurai though =p. She was always one of my favorite characters. Took me a while messing around with her to get build I liked. Ended up sticking with the geomancer because it had decent growths/multipliers and she did decent damage with the abilities.

So whats everyone using in Jot5?

Nothing set in stone yet but one person I have a awesome build for already is dante. Open for suggestions though!

High five on the Link and Snake suggestions. :v/: :cool:

how did we ended up talking about Agrias, in a post i made to talk about Delita?
Make one for Agrias!! Sob my Delita get ignored so easily :(

FFT have a load of build you can do to have fun , and a few which would be OP with all character, talking about it nowdays, sound a bit lol to me... specially talking about vanilla build, here in the jot5 i think, it will be pretty different.

You should be proud! Your topic is the chill spot right now lol. We will all be talking about delita very soon I'm sure  :P. Feel free to lol at me I haven't played vanilla in a long ass time but I was never into all those super OP builds anyways. I'm kinda glad they did away with that leveling down and faith/brave raising bs in JOT5. Anyways I'm talking about JOT5 builds right now. I've been experimenting a bit and I posted some builds I think I'm gonna try out when ch 2 hits in my previous post. We'll see though who knows what ch 2 has in store for us

*edit* I guess I should post something about delita too. Delita is definitely one of my favorite characters of the game. He had an awesome story and an original background. He did what he had to do for the good of the people but he was kind of evil. It may have been a necessary evil but I think it did consume him a little bit. I think he even cared about Ovelia towards the end but then we all know how that ends. So i definitely think Delita lost himself in the end. I always loved the battles with ramza and delita too. Even though they chose different paths when push came to shove they united and stood together against a more evil power. They have an awesome story to work with with delita and ramza and I can't wait to see what the JOT5 team does with it.

haha well that was my intention , i wanted to show all the people working on the project that even if the forum is silent , many are still waiting this more then ff7 remake ahahha

Aniway, i see absolutely no evil in Delitas doing, and as you say you do, can you please tell ONE evil thing Delita did?

and just to say about the end, is someone i saved from the shirne knights stab me in the end, i would stab her back too.. so i see no evil there also, more like retaliation.

Delita Never did a single evil thing, all he did was killing garbage people , while doing so becoming king to change the kingdom.
The game itself says that after Delita became king Ivalice have peace for a long time.

You can say if Ramza is the true hero.. Delita is the hero who got his hand dirty in Ramza stead, which get much more respect from my point of view  :)

Eh although I think Delita was a better character than Ramza, I think he soiled his hand plenty just not by his own choice. He was a naive guy but when push came to shove he got right in the middle of everything. I Haven't played fft in a really long time so all I can recall is the impression Delita left on me. Delita was a hero but he was willing to stoop to the same level of the real monsters of the game. Evil is not the right word I guess...but for lack of a better word a necessary evil. In my opinion he set out to change the world knowing that he too would have to change and I do think he lost himself a bit in the end. Honestly I agree with everything delita did and would have done the same thing. Except when he killed Ovelia. After everything he has been through I'm sure even he knew that dagger was not gonna kill him. Don't quote me on this but I believe he even said that he would give his life for her or something like that. And even if he did think he was gonna die...instead of being like ah shit well at least I accomplished my goal, Ovelia is in power now and things will be different ( which is what I think he would have done when he first set out to change the world ). He instead decides on killing her, which either way I look at it was not in the benefit of the people. It may be debatable if killing her was evil or not, but I do think it shows that war changes even heroes.

Just to clarify still love delita lol

Delitas motivation was for the greater good but the fact that he did get his 'hands dirty' actually kinda goes hand in hand with that fact that he did indeed stoop to those levels of grey area good guy/bad guy.

Yes in the end Delita led ivalice into a peaceful period, however the road to him becoming a king was not purely as a saint.

Well i do completely Agree that Delita is no Saint at all, and i would not even say a hero.

What i love about Delita, is the fact that in all FF series character, he is the one Which most represent a real human behavior in that kind of situation, he could have been destroyed by despair, or act the way he did.

That is why i see no evil in his action but more like a real and understandable behavior from the point of view of how humans are, more then heroes or saints that you can find in most games.

And if you come out from the Game point of view, when someone stabs you , knowing or not that stab wont kill you , you will retaliate in most cases.

Guru:

Delita do says that he would have given up his life for her, but that doesnt mean that if she tried to kill him he would not react at all.. it really is a different situation don't you think?

I played FFT for 19 years XD and i still play it from time to time, since is my favourite game.
And this is Delita's quote in war of the lion:

To save her life, i would gladly give my own.

it doesn't mean, if she try to kill me i will stand and die xD

I do agree with Elric that says Delita become kinda grey , but he never cross the line, the only "Innocent" guy he does kill in the whole game is the orlandu fake, and as Elric also said, he did it for the greater good, and to save orlandu too.

It might me been see as a way to use people, and maybe it is, but it does benefit everyone in the end.

I dont know, i see in Delita a lot of "Deceiving people" and use them , but everytime is to gain one step closer to solve bigger problems, and i think that's the way a man with real guts would act is a arsh and real world.

I see this message when i see Delita actions:

If you want to obtain something BIG , you can't do it with words and nice behaviour, and that is HOW thing really are in my point of view.
And this is the reason why he is NO HERO and no saint, cause that kind of people usually reach the same things Delita did but with only good actions, and lots of nice words, which is nice and cool but pretty much unreal!!

I hope i have made my point of view clear, English is not my main language XD

I would say Delita is definitely more on the evil side than neutral side in his behavior. He doesn't care if he has to use people to get what he wants, he kills indiscriminately when he has to (with emphasize on has to) and he is not above deceiving even his best friend Ramza even though he knows Ramza would do his best to see Delita's way of looking at things. The one thing that really stands out in my mind is when he killed Goltana. Even though Goltana was incompetent towards the end of the Lion War, Delita still pleaded fealty to him then kills him in order to get his revenge on the nobles. Delita has no honor or morals and has no need for them and I wouldn't necessarily put him into the neutral category because of that. He is very much like Wiegraf who literally sold his sold to the devil for power and I can't really say Delita wouldn't do the same but maybe that's the difference between the two.

Also I am not sure how accurate I am but I think Delita might have had a hand in the death of the leader of the Black Sheep, Baron Grimms who died on the battlefield due to an arrow. Seems suspicious that Baron Grimms would die from an arrow while leading troops where commanders are usually protected from that sort of thing, and then Delita gets promoted right after.

Having said all that I still agree with everything Delita did and the way he thought. He was a guy treated like shit by the world at large, lost everything and it takes being a little evil in order to combat the scummy people the world was infested with. If Delita is evil than the world he lived in was a complete cesspool.

Yeah I agree with it being a grey area that's why its so hard to put him in the evil category. Even if i do think he is slightly "evil"(for lack of a better word  :P) I would still call Delita a hero. Heroes don't have to be saints or anything. He still stood up for for the people and accomplished something ramza could not have.

and he does represent a more human reaction to everything. Which is one of the things that really makes you relate and feel for him.

just to point out too I'm not sure exactly what was said...but the fake orlandu guy willingly gave his life(course not sure if delita deceived him or not lol)

And I remember reading somewhere that he let orlandus kid and the assassin who was sent to kill him both live. That definitely says something about his character right there. Too bad his kid ends up dying by he churches hand if i remember right  :lol:

I still stick by what i said about ovelia. I agree that giving your life for somebody might change if that person tries to kill you...but I still think killing her shows that he has changed. Plus from her point of view he killed ordlandu's kid, ramza, alma and everyone else and she thought she was next. His reaction was just a selfish act and if they would have both died the church most likely would have rose up to power....and churches with power never ends well. It could have destroyed everything that he fought so hard to change.

Quote from: KingUrameshi on December 22, 2015, 03:02:49 pm
Also I am not sure how accurate I am but I think Delita might have had a hand in the death of the leader of the Black Sheep, Baron Grimms who died on the battlefield due to an arrow. Seems suspicious that Baron Grimms would die from an arrow while leading troops where commanders are usually protected from that sort of thing, and then Delita gets promoted right after.

I'm sure it was no coincidence anyways lol

Gotta say I always liked wiegraf and milinda? too (surprised I remember all this shit lol)

If someone point a gun at me, and you shoot to save me, shooting is a evil action, but the intention behind it is good.

Delita was sick of being used , and for the sake of revenge he killed all the nobility he could.

And take advantage out of it.

As urameshi said, Delita has no honor, but he does have moral , since he never killed Olan and Balmafula, even if he could easily do it, and balmafula even tried to kill him.. this says a lot about Delita.

For me is like if he suppress his good side, knowing that being good only bring misfortune and injustice to the weak people.

It,s true the baron grim die , but also the game NEVER mention even from far, that Delita have killed him, even if story wise, it could really be possible.

When Delita kill Orlandu fake, i think that guy is a volontary from the church , pretty sure about it, still dunno he if got deceived or not, but with that action Delita mean to help Ramza making orlandu "Dead" and able to escape.

Plus if you guys remeber, Delita use Ramza but he is definitely not willing to, Balmafula at the church tells him , he is using his friend, and he get mad at her, i think because Delita feel like being Ramza friend untill the end, and im pretty sure about it.

Since Delita last words before the game end, are pointed at Ramza.
To me it looks like "After all i've done , i saved everyone except myself".

Go at 1:33 if you don't remeber.. do you think someone would think about someone else birthday if he was the evil guy people says? After he become king he has no meaning to be nice with Ovelia but still his reaction doesn't looks fake to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQI42hYFKAA

he definitely knows at the end, he saved Ivalice, but was left with Nothing for himself. Probably the most sad character in every games i played. I could REALLY feel Delita's loneliness at the end.

Plus i think Ovelia Deserved to die so much, as she is probably the most stupid character in the game.
WHY does she thing Delita killed Ramza? He had no reason to do so.. she didn't even asked,and even if he used and deceived a lot of people, it always ended in Ovelia/Ivalice/Ramza favour, if not for Delita Ovelia would have been long dead, plus the war would have continued making lot more people suffer, plus Orlandu would have died also... i will never understand..
Plus if she cared about ramza like that, and alma was her only friend as she said , WHY wasn't she at the funeral like olan and balmafula O_o
Delita seems to order Ovelia around during the game, but only because she is dumb, the game never let you think, he treat her in a bad way.
And probably , even if this is only my supposition, Delita decide to stab ovelia back since he knew, she would have never trusted him, even if he said the truth, because he had to lie a lot to gain what he gained.

and can i be damned if im not right, the game says that after ALL delita passed, and ending up with nothing, he was still able to reign and keep ivalice in peace.
If that is not the best char ever i dunno who can be.

Quote from: Hyraldelita on December 22, 2015, 10:49:32 pm
As urameshi said, Delita has no honor, but he does have moral , since he never killed Olan and Balmafula, even if he could easily do it, and balmafula even tried to kill him.. this says a lot about Delita.

This is probably way closer to the truth than what I stated. I feel like Delita stabbed Ovelia in the end as a way for the creators to show how Delita wasn't sure of anything anymore. Like he stabbed her because he had gained what he wanted but was at a lost as what to do with himself and as I said earlier on closer examination of Ovelia, she came off as a spoiled brat and contradicted herself through out the game at times so in the end Delita was ridding the people of another spoiled noble. I feel like Ovelia is a lot like Ramza only unwilling to be as unselfish as Ramza was. I don't think Delita was happy at all about killing Ovelia but I am not sure that he hadn't had it planned if she were to step out of line.

I think Delita is an excellently written character only rivaled by Wiegraf and Miluda. The back and forth that Ramza has with Miluda on Lenalia Plateau made me fall for this game immediately as well as the back and forth between Ramza and Weigraf through out the game.

i do agree with wiegraf and miluda, but i didnt like that a idealist like wiegraf end up being super corrupted for revenge.

That is why i like more miluda then wiegraf story talking.

And no i REALLY think Delita would have never killed Ovelia, he became king so he have the main power, Queen is never as strong as a king in terms of power, and even if she was , Ovelia is no Evil, she is just dumb.

Delita except for the Orlandu clone , never kill anyone who is not evil or currupted.

I never really got the impression that Delita "used" Ramza in FFT. There were many times in which Delita took advantage of Ramza's actions, but to outright use him as a pawn would imply that Delita was directing Ramza in some way and he really wasn't - he just went with what he correctly expected Ramza to do, and actually helped him out on a few occasions. At no point did he feed Ramza misinformation or try to strong-arm him into doing his dirty work.

Of course, to everyone in the game, it looked like he was, because so much of what Ramza did turned out to benefit him. When, really, it was just a case of the two of them having very similar goals. Both of them wanted to work towards making Ivalice a better country. Their methods were completely different, though: Delita grimly accepted the way things were and dove headfirst into the darkness, willing to plow through it in order to achieve his goals. Ramza ran away, discarding his name and title as he fell into depression - until the Ovelia situation was thrown in his face.

Neither of them could have done the work the other did. Ramza rallied a squadron of allies to his cause out of sheer virtue, and made himself a target for those benefiting off others' misery. Delita did the dirty behind-the-scenes work that took care of most of the people responsible. Ramza couldn't have done what Delita knew needed to be done - and Delita couldn't have won over so many people the way Ramza did. Delita's own allies thought he was more evil than he actually was, because they saw how easily he could stoop to such depths, not realizing he only did what he thought was purely necessary.

Remember that when he kills Ovelia, it's only after being wounded by her sudden assassination attempt, accusing him of using and discarding Ramza when the truth was that Ramza chose that path. Delita couldn't have stopped him even if he'd tried.

I just wanted to pop in and say that I don't agree with the connotations floating around here that "Ovelia deserved her death", as I feel that's too extreme and goes too far with "apologizing" for what is ultimately a tragic scene.

Also, Merry Christmas!  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

merry x mas XD
And nyzer i LOVED your whole comment and i do agree 100% to what you wrote man! absolutely 100%.

When i said Ovelia deserved it, its from the point of view of how much stupid a noble wanna be can beshe just run and get defended from the start to the end, without taking a SINGLE usefull action for the whole game.

It's not that i wanted her dead, but after what she did , she deserved it in some ways.

Deserved? I disagree. She was never a fighter or a schemer; she spent most of her life in monasteries. Sure, Alma did too, but Alma also spent a fair bit of time at home, surrounded by a family of warriors, and lamenting the fact that she couldn't join her brothers. There wasn't much else that Ovelia could have done. It doesn't help that literally the entire nobility and the Church was doing their best to control and/or kill her for the entirety of the game.

You're also plainly, simply, wrong. Not only did Ovelia participate in the fights when she was attacked, but she also attempted to assassinate Delita after she came to the conclusion that he was an evil psychopath.

The only way in which I'd agree that she "deserves" her death is that she fails to mature beyond the "black and white morality" mentality the way Delita and even Ramza did, and thinks that because Delita used her and benefited from Ramza's actions, he's evil and deserves to die - which in turn forces Delita's hand.

But even that isn't clear-cut, because of the fact that she spent her last couple years being screwed over so completely that she wasn't even sure about her own identity anymore. So you can't really blame her. Nothing about her death is simple, and that's exactly the way it's intended.

She attempts to kill Delita because she can't trust him. Delita knows there's no way to convince her otherwise - knows there's no way to end things peacefully - knows that letting her live as a hostage will only do more harm than good both to his rule and to the country in general - knows she doesn't deserve to die. And the only person Ovelia could have really trusted, who would have been able to calm her down and help her figure things out, is presumed dead, so she can't simply walk the same path Agrias did.

Think about it. If Ramza's squad hadn't been there to take Agrias into their ranks, Delita would definitely have had to have her killed. She deferred to Ramza's judgement when it came to Delita, but on her own, Delita wouldn't have opened up to her the way he did Ramza, and she never would have accepted the necessity of leaving Ovelia in his custody.

QuoteI feel like Delita stabbed Ovelia in the end as a way for the creators to show how Delita wasn't sure of anything anymore.

Honestly, it's more like it was to show how quickly things fell apart for Delita without Ramza's support. Ramza was a beacon of righteousness in Ivalice, and everyone who interacted with him for more than five minutes knew it too. It basically allowed him to act as a middleman between Delita and the people like Agrias who might have opposed him. Without that dynamic in play... well, we've all seen the ending scene.

It's worse than just that, of course, because Delita actually had a lot in common with Ovelia, and he could have formed that dynamic with her, too. A lot of their interactions have Delita opening up, even if it is part of his plan to use her (using her to ascend to the throne isn't mutually exclusive with bonding with her, and his frustrations and promises seem sincere). But they never had the time. Neither of them trusted the other enough for their relationship to last.

And to edit this post yet again: this complexity of the relationship between Delita and Ramza is something I really have to praise Jot5 for.
I've deliberately kept myself away from reading too many spoilers in the Jot5 development board, so I don't know where it ultimately goes beyond Ch. 1, but so far I really like the way Elric went with it. It was a completely believable direction that adds new development to their relationship and even falls in line with the general pattern of the original FFT.

Well even if i agree with most part of this post, i still can't see Ovelia like you do, She fought in the battle, simply because they were surrounded. its not like had a choice..

Even if it's true that she didn't live in a castle with warrior, that doesn't excuse her passive behaviour, at least in my opinion.

living in a good family doesn't make you a saint, and living in a bad one doesn't make you a killer.

Anyway i tried to say that when i write "Deserve" it's that i wanted her dead, but looking at the situation she really took a decision based on the black or white thing you said, she didn't really reasoned much...

Of course she was a victim of everything that happened, but Delita never really explain his action to her, and this is his fault too.

But Delita also , have no trust in people , this story its lot more complicated then people think it is.

like 90% of people blame everything on Delita and think he is evil. And that really upset me XD

Yeah he's evil I tell you :twisted: lol jk I don't blame anything on delita... much to the contrary. I've said I actually see delita as a hero. I just don't think of ovelia as some dumb little puppet who should have died. She didn't have to fight she could have just sat in a corner and been like omg omg save me delita instead she tries to help with her magical barrier and staff. Plus like nyzer said she tries to kill delita in the end, that took some balls. But to say that is delita's fault is wrong too. Nyzer makes a good point on the ending and thats pretty much what i took out of the ending was that in the end both of them have lost themselves and wasn't sure of anything anymore. The sad part was delita was trying to open up to her...but she couldn't trust him. Which is understandable she did witness that scene with both oran and that assassin and she walks away at a point where it seems like he is going to kill them both. Plus as far as she knows ramza and alma are both dead after being used and tossed away by delita. I believe he truly cared about her, he didn't have to bring her flowers on her birthday and if he wanted her dead he could have done it in a much easier manner.

So in short its not anybody's fault, I don't think he's evil and it sucks what happened but I do think he could have handled it differently.

Oh and I also like what JOT5 does with delita's story so far. I haven't seen much yet but I like how his character is portrayed, it seems to really fit his character and I'm definitely looking forward to seeing where it leads too.

Agree on that line about jot5, but i also think Delita would not use people like romar and brother, dunno why that always looked like he is the boss of a gang more then the king of a kingdom with these 2 XD

I do like them and the story, but i would rather see them not related to Delita, since usually, even as king Delita always take care of his own buiness since he trust no one, except Ramza in my eyes.

i really REALLY hope there will be lot of interaction between Delita and Ramza in jot5 and that i can use King Delita and the game end :_:

that Conversation of Delita with Romar, is not about distrust of loyalty, but more a distrust of failing the task he give them, or at least this is what i remember.

Still Delita has never been a fake hero, so he doesn't really need to hide much, he killed many of the nobles, stopped a war and brought back peace to Ivalice, i don't see why he need to send thieves and assassins around, plus from the plot it look like before, sending romar to deal with Ramza Delita already used them.

Mine it doesn't want to be a complain, but i really think a character like Delita would never use those kind of people to do things.
I don't want to think that Delita at the end become like the nobles himself killed for revenge, and to bring back peace.

At least this in the way i see Delita, of course after my point of view , there can be lot more XD

QuoteI don't want to think that Delita at the end become like the nobles himself killed for revenge, and to bring back peace.

The whole point of Delita's story was that he had to use the nobles' methods. Just because he ended up as the king by the end of FFT doesn't mean that the need to resort to underhanded techniques would suddenly go away. And the situation that pops up shortly after the start of Jot5 is exactly the kind of situation he needs to keep at arm's length if at all possible.

Delita's final legacy is still canon: His rule still ushers in a golden age for Ivalice. But this story isn't set at the end of his rule when this is already an accomplished feat. This is still the transitional period. And Ivalice has spent most of the last 60 years in either a prolonged, seemingly endless war, or in a civil war, which is even worse for the population's morale. The calm hasn't had a chance to settle in yet. Things are still pretty rough around Ivalice. Not everyone who caused problems under the old system has been brought to heel.

And he does have things he needs to hide. For one? He killed the Queen shortly after being crowned. Doesn't matter that it happened in self-defense, the mere fact that it happened would be enough to cast a shadow over everything he's trying to accomplish, if it were to come to light. Given who Ramza is, and what he's capable of, what would happen if he decides that Delita's too far gone to trust as the man in charge of Ivalice? Even if Delita "wins" a confrontation like that, he'd have to kill Ramza to do it, and Delita isn't especially fond of being forced to kill the people he cares about.

So Delita has to handle some things under the table. Ramza's no fool, of course - even in early FFT he knows that not everything is black and white - but Delita learned, the hard way, that it's not about what you do and why, but what people think you're trying to do.

FFT was very explicit in showing that both Delita and Ramza's approaches were needed to pull Ivalice out of the civil war. Without Delita's work, Ramza would have lost Ovelia twice over just in Chapter 2, and Ramza was condemned as a heretic by the end of the game because he just kept charging into everything instead of using any subtlety at all. Not to mention the number of times Ramza's enemies just decided to go after the people he cared about. Hell, Alma's only still alive because she turned out to be a potential vessel for Altima.

It's not about Delita being a "fake hero", it's about the fact that Ivalice is still a country that would chew fairy tale heroes up within a week.

I would express caution in this Delita debate in order to avoid any accidental spoilers. I can see more into where the story may go and I would like to go into it blind if I could. The points about Agrias make me think a lot and I would hate to jump the gun just yet (not that anything has been spoiled).

Then again I could just stop reading the posts.  :D

Nah you are right. I will edit my post to contain spoilers. Sorry if we spoiled anything for ya but at least not much has been revealed yet so you will have plenty to look forward to in the next chapters  :P. I will try to be more careful about spoilers.

*edit* How do you change the spoiler box to say something besides spoiler? I tried id, name, and title but none worked.

[ spoiler=things ]

Without the spaces

i don't see any spoiler honestly, it's look more like comparing different point of view to me ^^ i know nothing of kot5 so i can't spoil , and i don't think even if nyzer knew he would make a big mistake like that.

Quote from: Hyraldelita on January 06, 2016, 04:42:10 am
i don't see any spoiler honestly, it's look more like comparing different point of view to me ^^ i know nothing of kot5 so i can't spoil , and i don't think even if nyzer knew he would make a big mistake like that.

No real spoilers yet I was just cautioning against getting to in depth and accidently guessing correctly some plot points that might be planned for the game. I also have no insider info as what will go down in Jot5 but thinking too much about the relationship between certain characters may lessen some of the fun of the game.

I don't want to tell anyone what they can and cannot write just trying to get the most fun out of the game as I can.

Quote from: KingUrameshi on January 06, 2016, 07:19:49 am
No real spoilers yet I was just cautioning against getting to in depth and accidently guessing correctly some plot points that might be planned for the game. I also have no insider info as what will go down in Jot5 but thinking too much about the relationship between certain characters may lessen some of the fun of the game.

I don't want to tell anyone what they can and cannot write just trying to get the most fun out of the game as I can.

Something like this that makes you think would do the exact opposite for me.

Any spoilers I end up "revealing" for the storyline other than what's currently released are deliberate lies because

I didn't think about people who hadn't yet played through Ch. 1 though. Whoops!

QuoteSomething like this that makes you think would do the exact opposite for me.

Heh, well, it depends. Sometimes hyping something up too much and investing too much attention in it can actually backfire on you. I remember being very hyped for Kingdom Hearts 2 before it released, based on how much I loved the first two games in the series, but I ended up regretting it later.
Of course, that was because a lot of the game was bungled - the difficulty was greatly decreased, the magic system was revamped in a way I wasn't too happy with, the main character's initial naivety from the first games was turned up to eleven, and a massive portion of the story from the GBA game was dropped with no real explanation. (Oh, I've been unconscious long enough to go though a growth spurt while asleep, there's no one waiting here as we wake up, and the only hint about it is that we have to thank someone we don't remember? Let's promptly ignore all of that and never bring it up again for the entire rest of the series! Ugh.)

And I really doubt Elric would screw up that badly, heh.

Well.... i honestly doubt someone that didn't play the 1 chapter will come and read this post, even for minor spoiler, plus is not a real spoiler for a few reasons!

Aniway, Delita Reign u_u

Get this what if delita gets a hold of one of the holy stones right.....And it turns him into raiden!! The naked king of Ivalice, definitely got a ring to it lol.
No need to thank me elric  :mrgreen:

i will die for curiosity before the chapter 2 come out XD or the re release ahahaha

We get closer and closer to releasing every day, we promise :P

every time someone makes a post relating to the re-release coming out you should delay it a day ayyy

Nah, I don't mind people asking in the slightest, I only feel bad that it hasn't been released yet. However, I'd feel worse putting out a project that didn't live up to the potential we have. Yes, the crafting system and other additions have taken quite a while, but at the same time, the re-release will make the initial release look like the demo lol.

i wish more game devs had that attitude, early access is ruining gaming :V

Here's a friendly reminder that you guys are AWESOME and take all the time you need.

Currently playing ShellShock Live, Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition and Skies of Arcadia. And do yourselves a favor and watch Rick and Morty if you haven't. Probably the best show on TV!

i only post because i want to show theme, people never forget ^^

I mean after all the effort, i think is nice if someone ask one in a while and live up the forum even if a bit no?^^

I know it's not really needed, but if i was theme i would like people to get interested in what they are doing :)

Mine will never be a complain about time or anything else, i'm planning to do something that will take some of my time, for them after they finish this game for us :)

This is still the most anticipated game of the year for me.

Most anticipated for myself as well... And that alone is insane. When you have people spending loads of money for development of big releases like star ocean and final fantasy XV and a mod to a game from the 90's has that beat... This staff is definitely doing something right.

We will get along just fine ;)

QuoteThis staff is definitely doing something right.

I'd say that "something" is not getting so caught up in trying to reinvent the wheel that you forget it was a wheel in the first place, ending up with a result that is incapable of rolling. There's a fine line between innovation and completely changing what people loved about the game - a line that a lot of game developers seem to blast on by at the speed of light these days.

Most folks who love classic FFT aren't going to be impressed by the Laws of FFTA or the *cough* "plot" of FFTA2 in which your protagonist's story is literally just "do what the fuck ever until you fill enough pages in your journal to reactivate your Grimoire and go home". They want something that's actually close to the game they love. And that's what we want, too.

Still waiting for GOTY... :mrgreen:

Quote from: Davi o Rei on August 21, 2016, 11:59:02 pm
Still waiting for GOTY... :mrgreen:

me too  :shock:

Really excited by this project, I had to sign up just to post!
Also, I'm not too familiar with how mods like this work. Is each new chapter a standalone thing? Would items and character levels/names carry over to newly released chapters?

Everything will carry over from chapter to chapter, so no standalone. you will however have to start over one the re-release is out since many many new mechanics have been added.

And thank you for joining to share your enthusiasm. May I ask how you heard about Jot5?

I found my way here from hearing about 1.3 awhile ago on gamefaqs when I was replaying FFT for its story. Recently listened to RPG OSTs on YouTube and the nostalgia train led me back here again, luckily :p Ive played a lot of RPGs as a kid, but the stories and characters were way too complex for me. Its exciting to replay them for their stories because its like playing them for the first time again. Jot5 sounds so well done being a complete overhaul its a dream come true really. The last time I was this excited by a fan project was the Mother 3 English translation and that ended up being one of my favorite games of all time.

Quote from: ricelover7 on October 05, 2016, 04:44:47 pm
I found my way here from hearing about 1.3 awhile ago on gamefaqs when I was replaying FFT for its story. Recently listened to RPG OSTs on YouTube and the nostalgia train led me back here again, luckily :p Ive played a lot of RPGs as a kid, but the stories and characters were way too complex for me. Its exciting to replay them for their stories because its like playing them for the first time again. Jot5 sounds so well done being a complete overhaul its a dream come true really. The last time I was this excited by a fan project was the Mother 3 English translation and that ended up being one of my favorite games of all time.

Do yourself a favor and really read the brave story when you start on Jot5. A lot of information to bridge the gap between vanilla and the new game. Maybe brush up on the brave story in vanilla while your at it.

I just wanted to join the forum and let Elric and the other creators of this mod know that they did an amazing job.

I started the mod about a month ago and finally finished it yesterday. I heard about it through another forum discussing FFT mods (which I didn't know was even a thing) and JotF was brought up. I admit the concept sounded silly at first, but after diving in I was thoroughly impressed. Not only is the gameplay challenging and fun, but I was very pleased with how believable the plot and characters were. You guys showed a lot of care for the world and characters and it shows. So really, great job!

After reading through the forum I'm happy to hear that the project is still alive and on its way, even though I'll lose my save file.

Couple of thoughts/questions:

1) Glad Ramza's dialogue may be addressed in the re-release. Sometimes it did feel jarring and out-of-character.
2) Glad that the JP system is being addressed in the re-release. I really want to explore other jobs like Blue Mage, Redguard, Samurai, and so on but I didn't even get close to unlocking them, especially since the base jobs are so useful.
3) I keep reading about three secrets sprinkled around the forum. I was only able to find two of them, can anyone give some hint as to where the third one is?
4) The mod is brutal and unforgiving in the beginning before you learn some abilities. I read that the first Beastmaster battle was already nerfed, but are there plans to make the early game a bit easier?
5) Speaking of Redguard, what are they exactly anyway? Some kind of Red Mage?
6) How far along is Chapter 2/the re-release? I saw the Chapter 2 progress log thread but the OP hasn't been updated in nearly a year so I'm not sure where it's at right now.

Quote from: Valus on October 19, 2016, 03:11:34 pm
I just wanted to join the forum and let Elric and the other creators of this mod know that they did an amazing job.

Thank you :)

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I started the mod about a month ago and finally finished it yesterday. I heard about it through another forum discussing FFT mods (which I didn't know was even a thing) and JotF was brought up. I admit the concept sounded silly at first, but after diving in I was thoroughly impressed. Not only is the gameplay challenging and fun, but I was very pleased with how believable the plot and characters were. You guys showed a lot of care for the world and characters and it shows. So really, great job!

We do our best, if you enjoyed it at present, then the re-release will blow your fucking mind :)

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1) Glad Ramza's dialogue may be addressed in the re-release. Sometimes it did feel jarring and out-of-character.

Indeed, I removed the swearing that Ramza did in a few instances, and in general much of the original dialogue has been reworked by myself and Angel (as well as reworks to every single scene, from small to outright remaking the scene)

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2) Glad that the JP system is being addressed in the re-release. I really want to explore other jobs like Blue Mage, Redguard, Samurai, and so on but I didn't even get close to unlocking them, especially since the base jobs are so useful.

Yeah, the JP and EXP formulas have been fixed up to be more friendly to player (We are also going to release a Jot5: Feelgood Edition, that will be geared towards more casual players as well)

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3) I keep reading about three secrets sprinkled around the forum. I was only able to find two of them, can anyone give some hint as to where the third one is?

I'm not sure what you mean, can you be more specific? Maybe just use a spoiler tag or something?

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4) The mod is brutal and unforgiving in the beginning before you learn some abilities. I read that the first Beastmaster battle was already nerfed, but are there plans to make the early game a bit easier?

Well, the Feelgood Edition will help a bit with that, but aside from the Beastmaster Battle, I've not seen too many complaints about it being too difficult outside a couple of the random battles that are being fixed for the re-release

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5) Speaking of Redguard, what are they exactly anyway? Some kind of Red Mage?

Yes, Redguard is a Red Mage, we went with the Vanilla FFT naming convention of Priest = White Mage, Wizard = Black Mage, etc.

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6) How far along is Chapter 2/the re-release? I saw the Chapter 2 progress log thread but the OP hasn't been updated in nearly a year so I'm not sure where it's at right now.

The only reason that that thread hasn't been posted in is because all of my posts go into the other threads regarding the re-release, since that is what we are currently working on (and making amazing headway recently, more to come soon)

QuoteI really want to explore other jobs like Blue Mage, Redguard, Samurai, and so on but I didn't even get close to unlocking them, especially since the base jobs are so useful.

Well, bear in mind that you are only in Chapter 1, after all! Trust me, with the sheer amount of battles we have planned for the main storyline and all the Marks, you won't have an issue with unlocking jobs the deeper in you go.

QuoteThe mod is brutal and unforgiving in the beginning before you learn some abilities. I read that the first Beastmaster battle was already nerfed, but are there plans to make the early game a bit easier?

We're using the Soldier Office hack in the rerelease, and one of the things it can do is allow the player to purchase monsters. No specific monster breed will be available in two separate locations, and you'll only be able to get one monster per town in Ch. 1, but Lionel Castle's purchasable monster is going to be a basic yellow Chocobo. We're intending to have the Chocobo be priced so that players can just manage to afford one when they first hit the World Map.

You'll sacrifice some gold you might have otherwise used on equipment and consumable items, and you'll sacrifice some of the EXP gain for your Five by swapping in a Chocobo for one of them - but, if you choose to go that route, you'll have a strong support unit right out of the gate (literally) with Choco Cure & Choco Esuna, at a time when all your other support options are all still single-target and mildly expensive. Plus, you can mount it. It's actually got double the Move of Dante.

And it won't be the only convenient monster to purchase in Chapter 1, either...

QuoteSpeaking of Redguard, what are they exactly anyway? Some kind of Red Mage?

Basically, but a bit beefier. Red Mages are good, but not great - the Redguard is still pretty great, just not quite as specialized. Think of it as the generic unit's version of Ramza's Duke job.

Thank you for the responses! I'm stoked, can't wait to play it!

As for the secrets I heard about, I'll spoiler tag them here:



Also, do you guys have a paypal account or something we are able to donate to in order to support your efforts?

Any donations should be made to charities specializing in crohns disease, ulcerative colitis or alzheimers disease.

A hint from elric!? :shock: Blasphemy! 

Glad to hear progress is going well. Hype :v/:

It's been an arduous road you guys have been travelling to complete the re-release and Ch.2. Thanks for all the hard work. Any new screen shots you could post to get us hyped---> :shock:?

Maybe post a crazy screen shot and refuse to offer any information, leaving the rest of the forum to speculate? It would give us something to talk about.

Had to edit this, this is much funnier. Boats & Hoes son!

QuoteMaybe post a crazy screen shot and refuse to offer any information, leaving the rest of the forum to speculate? It would give us something to talk about.

(http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9591.0;attach=15700;image)

Quote from: RJ Cid on October 25, 2016, 11:27:30 am
Any new screen shots you could post to get us hyped---> :shock:?

Maybe post a crazy screen shot and refuse to offer any information, leaving the rest of the forum to speculate? It would give us something to talk about.

I did used to do this, and even have not long ago, but the turnout is never more than one or two people who actually comment.

Quote from: Elric on October 26, 2016, 10:27:33 am
I did used to do this, and even have not long ago, but the turnout is never more than one or two people who actually comment.

Those 1-2 ppl always enjoy them though! I'm sure there is a ton of ppl who just don't comment too. But yeah no big deal if you'd rather not, I'm just glad to hear progress has been going well. Don't really care how long it takes either. Just plz put a spear in the remastered ch1 so I can do some Dante dragoon pwnage

You will have access to atleast one of every weapon type in the rerelease of ch1

i will look thru my unlisted videos tonight and come up with something confusing to show you guys lol

As promised. This video is older, and the script and event have been updated to fix a few issues, but mostly cosmetic stuff.

So yeah, here is something that will confuse you out of context

Great event Elric, as always! I love being confused!! So many questions just out of that 1 event!! As the title says 'can't wait!'

It is no doubt great work that you guys are doing. Not only is the story original and well paced (at least for chapter 1) but there are a ton of little details that really help to expand the world of Ivalice. Adding many fine details that will no doubt impact the story is the trademark of an excellent writer. Keep up the good work everybody and as always please take your time.

Edit. For some reason the buttons for different actions do not work but I figured it out. I is so smart.

So to speculate I assume Dante is referring to

~Yusuke Urameshi~

You should spoiler tag that KingUrameshi before the spoiler free ppl get mad  ;) (I just noticed your name too, is that from YuYu?)

Yeah I completely agree though, this looks badass!

I would imagine it might be someone

Really looking forward to this especially since most developers seem to only care about money or recycling the same idea over and over again. The curse of playing a little bit (lot) of everything.

Thats the nice thing about being a non funded team, we dont have to worry about schedules or moving quickly while sacrificing story. Though we do hate keeping people waiting, which is the only reason i tend to post things when asked.

You all have some interesting thoughts here, im enjoying reading them.

Yeah I definitely considered that too.



Yeah no worries Elric, that's exactly what makes this so damn good. I'd much rather sacrifice time, than quality.

In regards to the video posted:

Keep in mind

Quote from: KingUrameshi on October 28, 2016, 03:05:14 pm
like someone who smoked mad weed and generally didn't give a shit.

You just described me...

Quote from: Elric on October 28, 2016, 04:24:43 pm
You just described me...

Great minds think alike!

this comment will be useless but... --------------- > ahahhahahahahahahhahahah lol

Ha I never thought of it like that, it would explain why he is so quiet in the game. "Yeah! We did it! We saved the world!"

(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/61046269.jpg)

Mr. Guru, you see, this is a forum for humans. And there is no doubt that you are, in fact, a towel.

Yur a towel!

If I was a towel, why would I be wearing this hat and fake mustache?

I really wish we had an upvote system for posts right now. Guru++

Quote from: Elric on October 27, 2016, 01:37:58 am
You will have access to atleast one of every weapon type in the rerelease of ch1

i will look thru my unlisted videos tonight and come up with something confusing to show you guys lol

As promised. This video is older, and the script and event have been updated to fix a few issues, but mostly cosmetic stuff.

So yeah, here is something that will confuse you out of context

spoiler

Ohh, a Tournament. I love me some tournament scenes/events/gameplay. This gonna be fun! Looking forward to it.  :mrgreen:

Quote from: Valus on October 28, 2016, 12:28:29 pm
In regards to the video posted:

spoiler

I think that it's the Master Sword as well since it's his most iconic weapon, but whoever has it is probably not who we think it is. The Master Sword can't be used by just anyone, so my guess it's another hero worthy of it. Kinda like Thor's hammer, only someone worthy of it can wield it. So I'm going to guess it's someone like Crono or Glenn who has it for whatever reason.

Wow, what a great event! It's looks amazing, dialogue between Dante and Snake is an instant classic. Very much looking forward to finding out how this snippet fits into the overall story - and also seeing more character interaction. You guys are doing amazing work, I love the tournament idea. 5 battles, with environmental conditions and different types of victory conditions. My take:



Right or wrong, this looks sweet! Keep up the great work Elric and co. You guys freakin' rock!!!! Feel free to post anything else, we eat this stuff up.

I'm calling it now...

You are all just the best kind of people. I love reading these XD

Thank you for all the kind words. And no, no one has been quite right, even if some tiny bits and pieces are somewhat correct but in other ways not related to that scene, or, am I only saying that to mess with you? Who knows?
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To keep it spoiler free:

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Could my prediction on the Coliseum idea be accurate?

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And I think Urameshi may be correct on the wielder of Link's Sword

And I would like to buy weed off any of them. :)

Quote from: DeJ on November 04, 2016, 11:35:44 am

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Agreed, Gilgamesh is a strong candidate. I would also lean Glenn over Crono. Crono is a lightning element and uses Katanas, Glenn in CT uses swords (albeit Water element) and in Crono Cross the Double Swords (Mastermune, which seems 'Holy' in nature.) Given the attention to detail paid by the development team, it seems they would make things consistent. Or... maybe we've got it all wrong here and it isn't even the Master Sword, even though it seems most likely. Here's one we haven't thought of... Bartz from FF5 in his Traveler job. It fits the FFT mold (job changing) and he can equip any weapon! Yeah... probably not, he's kind of bland and not a prick. Odin would be cool, Zantetsuken, 1 hit kills you in the tournament - only to be revived by the statue. Would make for an interesting battle indeed!

This is Dante so I am going to say he uses the word prick a lot so maybe that isn't such a huge factor.

Quote from: KingUrameshi on November 05, 2016, 09:49:06 am
This is Dante so I am going to say he uses the word prick a lot so maybe that isn't such a huge factor.

Its obvious what Snakes ultimate is



How OP was that shit, right?

Quote from: Twinees on November 06, 2016, 07:19:03 am

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Also think about what characters have complicated designs! Gilgamesh for example has extremely intricate clothing. I usually tend to avoid pixelling those characters unless I can simplify them. Monsters take much longer than human sprites to make as well.

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But that doesn't mean myself and the team haven't done some cool looking shit.

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(http://piq.codeus.net/static/media/userpics/piq_30486_400x400.png)
I did not make this.

That is a bad ass avatar sprite!

Quote from: KingUrameshi on November 06, 2016, 08:53:39 am

That is a bad ass avatar sprite!

Yeah it is! Nice work on the dragoon sprites man.

Thanks Guru and KingUrameshi! Expect some more cool stuff in all forms in the Chapter 1 re-release and Chapter 2!

Awesome LoD avatars!!

i can't see it :( it show me the image as broken...
Anyway, i hope they really added something new instead of a gilgamesh or another char from another game.
I prefer their original things , all the char they introduced untill now were godly made, sprite and character aswell, so i really hope they keep doing this instead of using characters we already know.

Any way, i think the best ultimate weapon possible for Ramza would be a "heavenly knight sword" as his father class was, or something related to Balbanes that symbolize House Beoulve :) don't you guys agree? (i have no idea for snake XD) but instead of a weapon i would give him a mantle with autocloak counter , so you can actually be the only character with 2 counter attacks, which make things incredibly easy !^^

Two reaction abilities at once tend not to work very well.

Quote from: Hyraldelita on November 08, 2016, 05:17:56 pm
i can't see it :( it show me the image as broken...

We are talking about Twinees new avatar.

Quote from: Elric on November 08, 2016, 08:14:07 pm
We are talking about Twinees new avatar.

I like how it follows the same sequence in which you get those members on your team.

in 2 weeks it will be this post anniversary ahahahah 4 december 2015 when i wrote it, and still can't wait to play.

so its now 2 years and a half XD

Yes, these mods take a lot of time and we have to take breaks from time to time to work on other things.

We had someone working on the gathering marks but they disappeared. Those are basically our biggest hurdle right now and they are such a pain no one seems to want to do them lol.

The project will go on as always, working on chapter 3 and 4 stuff, but until the gathering marks are done, there isnt much we can do for thr re-release of chapter 1 as well as chapter 2 just yet.

Thanks for the update, Elric.  'Tis appreciated.

i just wanted to say we're still alive and waiting ^^
I'm sorry to hear that something disappeared, does that mean it's going to be in "stop" because of that?

We're still progressing, just slowly.

I personally switched jobs - went from 5-7 hours a day to a minimum of 10+ and more unpaid time away from home. So progress is at a crawl on my end.

Real life just has to come first. And I know that's the case for many of the others, too.

Indeed we are still working on things. Im currently working out some scripts and flow for chapters 3 and 4. We are at a snag on the rerelease of ch1 and ch2 release, which is why you havent seen a release as of yet.

However that doesnt mean we arent still pushing where we can on other parts of the mod.

Guys i think honestly that just with you telling this once every few months would be enough for people to know they have to wait and can't complain since as Nyzer said, real life always comes first, there is no "but" there..

We can imagine that you guys are busy ,but knowing why help a lot not to think things like "They're taking too much time for no reason" of stupid things like this.
I personally know many people think this when they don't know you guys are having a hard time, or your job takes away all your time.

when i work in korea that's 12 hours or work every day, so i know what it mean to be busy and to not have time.

Just give "us" some news about why its taking so long and i think that will suffice to make people understand. (its like you have to do it, of course, its just to make the wait easier) ^^

Maybe its only me, but since im gratefull for what the team is doing, i also care to know how your life goes in general :)

Just wanted to say it is nice to still see progress being made on this great mod, despite the re-release snag (such a bummer to hear). However, just like the last 2 years I will continue to support what you guys do here and will keep waiting patiently until Ch1 makes its reappearence. Im sure it will be worth the wait.

Quote from: Elric on May 26, 2018, 11:31:15 am
Yes, these mods take a lot of time and we have to take breaks from time to time to work on other things.

We had someone working on the gathering marks but they disappeared. Those are basically our biggest hurdle right now and they are such a pain no one seems to want to do them lol.

The project will go on as always, working on chapter 3 and 4 stuff, but until the gathering marks are done, there isnt much we can do for thr re-release of chapter 1 as well as chapter 2 just yet.

Not sure if you've confirmed this before, (i couldnt find about it anywhere), the next release will be all chapters or just chapter 2?

Just Chapter 1 and 2. We've got the rough outline of a story for Ch. 3, but are nowhere near done with its events or anything.

The good news is that once this rerelease is all clear, future chapters shouldn't take anywhere near as long.

I have to admit that i've never had this kind of expectation for such and old game... I mean, it was released in the end of the 90s.
And like 5 or 6 years (I thinks more or less) since i've been following this mod. I've been through 2 gfs, 3 jobs and finished college!

Will keep waiting, take your time and don't rush it, loved the first chapter!!